Friday, July 17, 2009

Abbas Explains Jerusalem and Jewish Nationality

From an interview to the Egyptian weekly October by Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud 'Abbas published on July 12, 2009

'Abbas:..."Olmert said: 'I have an idea regarding the Holy Basin.' There is a difference between saying the Holy Basin and putting things on the [negotiating] table [that is, talking specifically about the entire area of the Holy Basin]. Olmert placed a proposal on the table and he spoke of the Haram [Al-Sharif], the Mount of Olives, and the cemetery, and said: 'All this area is the Holy Basin. We propose that it be overseen by an international committee.' [He said this] even though the idea of an international committee was proposed originally at Camp David and in the 1947 Partition Resolution. This is why I say that there is a difference between saying that this is the Haram and the Holy Basin, and that a commission should be established on this basis, and saying that only what is placed on the negotiating table is regarded as the Holy Basin. In the end, we did not agree on anything...

...Israel does not interest us, and its name doesn't interest us either. It can call itself whatever it wants, but I'll call it Israel. I don't want to get into details concerning Israel's society. They say that they have 1.5 million Arabs and half a million Russian Christians – that is, two million non-Jews out of five or six million people with Israeli citizenship – but it is impossible to know exactly how many Israelis there are because they [count] anyone with an Israeli passport. This was said at Annapolis, and that conference nearly failed, even though representatives of over 50 countries were participating in addition to the U.S.

"The Israeli side was forced to withdraw its request, and later withdrew it. I was amazed at how Israel selectively chooses a few sections from the Partition Resolution and rejects the others.

Question: "Does [the concept of] Israel as a Jewish state constitute an alternative to the national Zionist enterprise?"

'Abbas: "I maintain that the [Israelis'] main aim is to rid itself of non-Jews and to eliminate the [Palestinian] right of return. But the PA is determined regarding this right. I have five million refugees and I cannot tell them, 'Return to Israel, which you came out of.' I also cannot prevent them from doing so. The solution is negotiation [on the refugee issue] based on the Arab initiative, which called for a just and agreed solution...

"A senior Israeli official whom I don't want to name once told me: 'We can concede on the settlements in exchange for your concession on the right of return.' I told him: 'Let's discuss this. Aren't the settlements vital for you?' He said, 'Well.' I said: 'Inasmuch as they are not important, get out of them and let's get ready for another round of negotiations, which will deal only with the right of return, because this issue is vital to us.' He said: 'You've turned into a Jew.'...

7 comments:

Frank Wa said...

Don't you get tired of telling the same old lies,you old fool?
You are obviously getting senile,
your pathetic piece in the LA Times
is such a grotesque twisting of reality, that you are an embarassment to any person with an honest and intelligent approach to world politics and ridicule is all you will provoke with that kind of argumentation. No longer do the lies of your evil lot fool anyone! The Global Mind has awakened.'Mietnomaden' never know when their time is up, and your disgusting colonial anachronism gig has lost its legitimacy in the eyes of the whole world, laying bare in its immorality, only you simply don't know it yet(are too deluded /ain't got the balls to face the truth.) Who do you think you can fool with that kind of 'argument'? Go packin'! Stop lyin' to yourself and everybody else. Denial won't help, you khazar pseudo-semites are exposed for the despiccable thiefs and frauds you are, no matter how you twist the truth.
No wonder your ilk has been expelled over and over, you personally are living argument for the necessity of such measures.
Free Palestine!

YMedad said...

Whoa, whoa, there Wa. Forget the BS, ask me one specific question that you think I was wrong. No slogan: no colonialism, no Khazer crap, no antisemitic verbiage. What do you think I lied about specifically?

Frank Wagner said...

If you don't even get it, you're more senile than I thought!
A "thoroughly depressing read on the arts of duplicity and mendaciousness" to borrow a phrase, even though I found it
amusing and bordering on the surreal,it's nothing new,that you
ashkeNAZIs always turn the truth upside down, but that you seriously think you can sell this BS with the whole(informed)world
knowing how settlers behave and what you and your settlements inflict on the palestinians,their freedom of movement, their agriculture? Your delusion is more serious than I thought!
Better get lost on your own, because otherwise you WILL get lost by forces beyond your understanding!
Defending the Indefensible, straight out of your newest manual,a lost cause indeed! The best part is that the real price you pay is that you will burn in some interdimensional hell for denying christ. So better repent, old fool,
as long as there is time. Your racist hellhole is finished, it's so rotten from within, that it WILL disintegrate, but it's nothing new, that you lack the spine to actually face these prospects,with a desperate charade like that you are only further documenting your moral bankruptcy. Lies should at least be plausible and not this transparent. You jews deem yourself so smart but actually are the "stupidest of devils" as a noted german politician once said, "they never know when to stop with their lies and schemes, they overdo it every time - and then they scream anti-semitism"
"It's a trick, we do it every time!"(screaming anti-semitism)
If one of your ex-ministers is stupid enough to say this in front of a camera, I'm fine with that ,as if not everybody knew it already - that 90% of you israelis aren't even semites is becoming common knowledge too, so your anti-semite smear loses its sting.
But don't you impostors come lyin' and expect any serious moral person to swallow your pathetic propaganda. Or have you got Alzheimers? I have wasted enough time already!

P.S. The name got capped by accident the first time.

yoni said...

how can we take mr. wagner seriously? he's obviously biased against the elderly.

yoni said...

he obviously has something against khazars, too. i don't understand why, if as he says, we khazars are doomed, as the world wakes up to our lies about who we are and other sins and our unjust society comes crashing down around our ears he feels the need to insult us as well. i'm feeling miffed, mr. wagner. it's hard enough pretending to be semitic (why would anyone do this?) without people like you sticking in your ridiculous two cents. :)

Tails said...

Khazars??? lol, even Mahmud Abbas is moderate compare to you Mr. Frank Wa. The best part is... "even heard of Karma?" that was hilarious!

Yochanan said...

Hey Frank, any relation to Richard?